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Steven Hawking’s Papal Bull

Wednesday, September 8th, 2010

Stephen Hawking proves that a very smart person can make very dumb arguments.

Here is his great big fantastic argument that God didn’t create the universe.

the laws of gravity and quantum theory allow universes to
appear  spontaneously from nothing. Spontaneous creation is
the reason there is  something rather than nothing, ... It
is not necessary to invoke God...

Breathtaking! What an argument!  It “just happened!”  WOW!  A towering intellect has spoken!  He calls this an argument? “It just appeared.”?  I am reminded of a line from the movie Repo Man, “People just blow up sometimes”.

Sorry, Mr. Hawking, there is precisely no evidence at all that Universes are spontaneously being created.  His remark is typical of the over-reach that scientists are often guilty of.  They observe a proton being generated from energy and they then decide energy, space, mass, time also can be generated from mere energy…oh but wait, where did the energy come from…drat.  We must admit that the spontaneous creation of the universe is a much lower probability than spontaneous creation of Lawrence Whelk clones, and so far we have measured no instance thereof, but that’s another post.

He also fails to mention that scientists still have no idea how to reconcile the “laws” of gravity and quantum mechanics.  And, as any physicist will tell you, because they cannot reconcile them, it means they all know that they have one, the other, or both, partially wrong.

But on he goes with non-arguments:

Our universe seems to be one of many, each  with different
laws. That multiverse idea is not a notion invented to
account for the miracle of fine tuning. It is a consequence
predicted by  many theories in modern cosmology. If it is
true it reduces the strong  anthropic principle to the
weak one, ...

Seems?

What does “seems” mean?

He did an experiment and the results are positive?  Uh, no.  What he means is that he believes.  He believes he understands, he believes that he can successfully calculate the consequences of any laws he partially understands, and he believes in non-scientific realms where he can never go.

In other words, he believes he likes his job as exclusive priest and arbiter of the other realms.  More simply: he likes thinking that its he who is god.

As I have written in this space before, “multi-verses” are not a scientific idea. You cannot measure the existence or non-existence of a multi-verse.  You cannot go to one, make a measurement, and return.  If you could do either of those things, the “multi-verse” would not be a multi-verse any more but would be simply part of this universe.  So multiverses are hermetically sealed inside a cask of anti-science. You can never confirm a hypothesis with experiment; you cannot do science; multi-verses are not science, by reference to their very definition.

His argument is pathetic.  Its not an argument.  It is an appeal to authority – his.  And as such it represents the worst possible squandering of a scientist’s moral authority and public integrity.

The proposition that “universes suddenly happen” and “multiverses exist” are not arguments from science.  They are diktats from the priesthood to the proletariat.

Let us throw off his folly and reject him and his monkish pronouncements outright, no matter what his rank, stole, or scepter.

I hate Multiverses

Sunday, May 17th, 2009

* I hate, hate, hate “Multi-verses
* I did my best to confront and argue with Paul Davies when he visited pushing them.

1) Multiverses fail the basic tests for something being science

a.  Can I measure it?
b.  Can someone else repeat the measurement?
c.  Is there a one-to-one mapping between a predictive rule, and a measurement?

The proponents of Multiverses will admit that all of these are failures.  The strategy must be
to force them to define science, then use their definition to force on them and everyone else that Multiverses are NOT science.

2)  Multiverses fail all tests for physical law

a.  By definition, multi-verses lie outside this universe
b.  If we regard the physics description of this universe as “physical law”
then mutli-verses are not, in any way, governed by physical law.
c.  If “Multi-verses” are a set of things which are not physical law, and not natural, and which by definition lie outside this universe Multi-verses are “supernatural”.

A Indian man, at Paul Davies talk, came up to him and asserted that Davies was teaching Hinduism and that Hinduism  had been teaching this for centuries, was Davies aware of it?  Davies feigned ignorance in order to pretend he was still pushing “science”.  But the Indian fellow was exactly right:  Davies & co. have become apostles of Hinduism.

Multi-verse is religion. It is: not science, not physical law, outside this universe, and can never, ever be measured!  As soon as you could perform a measurement on anything you might otherwise have called
a “multiverse”, you are right back in the natural universe again.  Any path by which you can enter the “other” “universe”, make a  measurement, and return, ports the natural-real universe to the “other” universe, and multiverse doesn’t exist again.

SO, “multiverse” can only “exist” if you don’t go there!  And if you don’t go there you can never do science on it!
So the only multiverses which can ever, ever, exist are totally unscientific ones which we can never visit!

Talk about believing in pie in the sky!

Once an audience has been convinced that multi-verses are religion, then we can demonstrate that our religion is in every way scientific, whereas multi-verses are not.

1) Christianity succeeds in the basic tests for something being science

a.  Can I measure it?  (Jesus resurrection was physical-observable, I can pray and measure results, God says “test me in this” about tythe)

b.  Can someone else repeat the measurement?  (Many Bible-tests are open to anyone. Some are repeated a few times. Witnesses attest)

c.  Is there a one-to-one mapping between a predictive rule, and a measurement? (Prophecy and occurrence map one to one on cities in history where the Bible predicted what would happen to them.  Also, God’s predictable behaviour is committed to in multiple places. This can be measured against
history)

The proponents of Christianity will admit that all of these are successes.  By reasonable definitions of science, the facts of Christianity proceed supportably via normal rules of evidence.

2)  Christianity doesn’t fail all tests for physical law

a.  The heavenly realm lies outside this universe, but information exchange exists between there and here.
i.  This is demonstrable through checks. Did the prophecy come true? Did the prayer happen as prayed?

b.  If we regard the physics description of this universe as “physical law”, we learn in credible testimony that the
heavenly realm is governed by physical laws of a kind, though different than here.
ii.  This is mostly from peer reviewed journal articles (Bible).  Individual testimony exists as well.

c.  If Christian-supernature are a set of things which are not earthly-physical law,
but which are law attested to by many reliable witnesses, who have repeated their measurements, moved between this universe and the supernatural-universe, made predictions about this realm due to information obtained in the other realm then, the Christian supernature has scientific properties.

Caveat/exception: I do not know if any observer has made predictions and observations entirely within the supernatural realm, and repeated them, confirmed them.  I would have to search the Bible for that.

So, if comparing religions, there is suggestive science for regarding Christianity as obeying rules of evidence, and therefore being at least basically or possibly credible.  Multi-verses though, abandon all such rules, and because the proponents try to simultaneously assert the existence of the supernatural, but reject any claim of evidence retrieved from the supernatural realm, they seal themselves into believing only and always in a myth which they themselves could tell you that they will never, ever visit nor participate in!

We however plan to visit our other-universes and perform experiments there.  So how is it that they are “scientific” and we are “religious”?

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